hi
i need a standard inlet manifold for a g161 non polution or polution i dont mind
and in the melbourne area so i can pick it up but need it asap if possible
if anyone can help me out that would be greatly appreciated
thanks guys
WTB: G161 manifold urgent :(
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Re: WTB: G161 manifold urgent :(
FYI - PAP-K (Pick A Part - Kilsyth) have 2 early Gems listed, though they were there 3Feb12.
Today's full listing from pick-a-part.com.au/parts_recovery is:
HOLDEN: GEMINI
Year Type Colour Job No Site
1977 SEDAN YELLOW KE1451 KILSYTH
1979 SEDAN RED 1296 KILSYTH
1983 SEDAN BEIGE 1180 CAMPBELLFIELD
1984 SEDAN BURGUNDY KE2030 KILSYTH
1984 SEDAN WHITE 1468 KILSYTH
1985 SEDAN WHITE CE2067 CAMPBELLFIELD
1985 SEDAN GOLD 1924 CAMPBELLFIELD
1985 SEDAN WHITE 1459 CAMPBELLFIELD
1986 SEDAN SILVER 1147 CAMPBELLFIELD
1987 SEDAN BROWN CE2165 CAMPBELLFIELD
Manifolds were $25 from PAP in 2005. Since then, some prices have increased, others decreased.
Today's full listing from pick-a-part.com.au/parts_recovery is:
HOLDEN: GEMINI
Year Type Colour Job No Site
1977 SEDAN YELLOW KE1451 KILSYTH
1979 SEDAN RED 1296 KILSYTH
1983 SEDAN BEIGE 1180 CAMPBELLFIELD
1984 SEDAN BURGUNDY KE2030 KILSYTH
1984 SEDAN WHITE 1468 KILSYTH
1985 SEDAN WHITE CE2067 CAMPBELLFIELD
1985 SEDAN GOLD 1924 CAMPBELLFIELD
1985 SEDAN WHITE 1459 CAMPBELLFIELD
1986 SEDAN SILVER 1147 CAMPBELLFIELD
1987 SEDAN BROWN CE2165 CAMPBELLFIELD
Manifolds were $25 from PAP in 2005. Since then, some prices have increased, others decreased.
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Re: WTB: G161 manifold urgent :(
Update:
The PAP price is now $30 for manifolds.
PAP-C (Campbellfield) had a TG with intake manifold as at Thursday 1May12. (Is TG 1983, hence the 1983 SEDAN BEIGE 1180 CAMPBELLFIELD above?)
Incidentally, there were several RB Geminis - grab your electronic distributor guts now.
PAP now list $20 for Ignition Amplifiers or something similar - whatever it was IMO had to mean ignitors, and it said nothing about them being external, hence contradicting their edict that distributors (amongst other things) are ONLY sold complete.
However I understand that the required parts (the early model RB upper dizzy rotor and any RB breaker plate with attached reluctor sensor and its wire-attached inside-dizzy wall mounted ignitor) are obtainable free from some place called Pocket or Pinch A Part (wherever that is).
But I saw one FWD Gemini (TX-TG) dizzy in the boot of the PAP-C (TG?) Gemini so it makes more sense to buy that for $35 that after removing its upper rotor and breaker plate with points and just chucking in the RB bits. (Keep the plastic cable exit insulator for hole blanking unless you have some suitable U-shaped solid (rubber) grommet.)
And I also suggest getting the RB's standard blue Nippon Denso ignition coil with mounting bracket (~$8) - or at least its harness from the ignitor and to the main electrical harness complete with end connectors for other IgCoils. (The only economical and better performing IgCoils are performance E-core types.)
Maybe also snip off the main body-harness's mating connector though ordinary spade connectors can be used instead (one for IGN +12V, one for the tacho (or ignition killer switch to earth) if required).
Tools to remove the RB bits: a 5mm hex drive (Allen key) to make things easier; a Phillips head screw driver to remove the upper rotor (after removing the rubber plug with a self-tapper or pin etc) and ignitor (with optional connector mount; keep its mounting screws) and two screws for the breaker plate's hold-down plates; maybe a larger Phillips to remove the vacuum advance assembly if needed (you cold just remove the circlip and force the backing plate past the its arm); and something to remove the springs (and circlips?) off the upper rotor (maybe Phillips, else a thin screw driver etc). You can discard all but the rotor & breaker plate with sensor/pickup and attached ignitor and external cable & connector with rubber grommet, though the other small bits may be handy as spares etc (external side connector clip, screws, circlips, rubber bung) but not the vacuum assembly and its screw nor dizzy-cap clips - they are incompatible with the FWD dizzy (and from memory, so too the RB's rubber O-ring between the cap and body). Springs and weights from the recipient standard TX-TG dizzy should be used.
Similar tools for the for the standard dizzy to be converted, but without damaging its springs and vacuum advance or losing un-spared screws or clips.
It maybe worthwhile obtaining a spare ignitor when convenient, but these (along with breaker plates and the pickups) exist on other cars (eg, Suzuki) - it's only the early model RB upper dizzy rotor that is the essential Isuzu/Gemini part for the conversion.
Apologies for the additional electronic dizzy stuff, but it's such a cheap performance and maintenance enhancement [which sh*t all over things like $300 Pertronix kit - and you can add ANY IgCoil to the RB ignitor (unlike the Petronix), and IMO it even makes $300 - $600 CDI kits (excluding pickups) not worth the trouble (says me after finally designing a CHEAP multi-input & IgCoil CDI system!)].
Plus according to some twincam enthusiast, standard Gemini FWD dizzies are somewhat hard to get. (Maybe someone has collected too many for older Bellett & Florian (OHV) and G-W DOHC dizzy conversions LOL!)
[ I lost track of what exists on this site regarding dizzy upgrades, so this was a refresher if nothing else. Besides, I traditionally don't start new posts on public forums (ie - less than 5 compared to over 10,000 replies). ]
The PAP price is now $30 for manifolds.
PAP-C (Campbellfield) had a TG with intake manifold as at Thursday 1May12. (Is TG 1983, hence the 1983 SEDAN BEIGE 1180 CAMPBELLFIELD above?)
Incidentally, there were several RB Geminis - grab your electronic distributor guts now.
PAP now list $20 for Ignition Amplifiers or something similar - whatever it was IMO had to mean ignitors, and it said nothing about them being external, hence contradicting their edict that distributors (amongst other things) are ONLY sold complete.
However I understand that the required parts (the early model RB upper dizzy rotor and any RB breaker plate with attached reluctor sensor and its wire-attached inside-dizzy wall mounted ignitor) are obtainable free from some place called Pocket or Pinch A Part (wherever that is).
But I saw one FWD Gemini (TX-TG) dizzy in the boot of the PAP-C (TG?) Gemini so it makes more sense to buy that for $35 that after removing its upper rotor and breaker plate with points and just chucking in the RB bits. (Keep the plastic cable exit insulator for hole blanking unless you have some suitable U-shaped solid (rubber) grommet.)
And I also suggest getting the RB's standard blue Nippon Denso ignition coil with mounting bracket (~$8) - or at least its harness from the ignitor and to the main electrical harness complete with end connectors for other IgCoils. (The only economical and better performing IgCoils are performance E-core types.)
Maybe also snip off the main body-harness's mating connector though ordinary spade connectors can be used instead (one for IGN +12V, one for the tacho (or ignition killer switch to earth) if required).
Tools to remove the RB bits: a 5mm hex drive (Allen key) to make things easier; a Phillips head screw driver to remove the upper rotor (after removing the rubber plug with a self-tapper or pin etc) and ignitor (with optional connector mount; keep its mounting screws) and two screws for the breaker plate's hold-down plates; maybe a larger Phillips to remove the vacuum advance assembly if needed (you cold just remove the circlip and force the backing plate past the its arm); and something to remove the springs (and circlips?) off the upper rotor (maybe Phillips, else a thin screw driver etc). You can discard all but the rotor & breaker plate with sensor/pickup and attached ignitor and external cable & connector with rubber grommet, though the other small bits may be handy as spares etc (external side connector clip, screws, circlips, rubber bung) but not the vacuum assembly and its screw nor dizzy-cap clips - they are incompatible with the FWD dizzy (and from memory, so too the RB's rubber O-ring between the cap and body). Springs and weights from the recipient standard TX-TG dizzy should be used.
Similar tools for the for the standard dizzy to be converted, but without damaging its springs and vacuum advance or losing un-spared screws or clips.
It maybe worthwhile obtaining a spare ignitor when convenient, but these (along with breaker plates and the pickups) exist on other cars (eg, Suzuki) - it's only the early model RB upper dizzy rotor that is the essential Isuzu/Gemini part for the conversion.
Apologies for the additional electronic dizzy stuff, but it's such a cheap performance and maintenance enhancement [which sh*t all over things like $300 Pertronix kit - and you can add ANY IgCoil to the RB ignitor (unlike the Petronix), and IMO it even makes $300 - $600 CDI kits (excluding pickups) not worth the trouble (says me after finally designing a CHEAP multi-input & IgCoil CDI system!)].
Plus according to some twincam enthusiast, standard Gemini FWD dizzies are somewhat hard to get. (Maybe someone has collected too many for older Bellett & Florian (OHV) and G-W DOHC dizzy conversions LOL!)
[ I lost track of what exists on this site regarding dizzy upgrades, so this was a refresher if nothing else. Besides, I traditionally don't start new posts on public forums (ie - less than 5 compared to over 10,000 replies). ]
Isuzu means a lot to me
(Caveat: But I've never owned a Gemini)
(Caveat: But I've never owned a Gemini)
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